One thing i fail to understand and no one seems to have noticed so far as much i read through the comments (didn’t read all of them, sorry just too many guys lol)

The translation has no COMMERCIAL gain, what are they protecting exactly, no matter what license they have, closed or not, it is not illegal to modify something if you do not get commercial gain from it. Imagine it very simply, i buy a microwave which is white and then spray it silver, as long as i don’t start reselling it saying ooooh look a silver release of this, i would not be braking any law at all and no company could ever do anything to me in any court in any country. Same is in this case, the group did nothing but add new colors, or if we skip the metaphor bs, translations, to an existing product, they weren’t selling their translations, they weren’t making users payed for the modified things, there is no law case here, minori isnt protecting any intellectual property here, they are quite frankly being retarded.

The actual more exact law that would apply in this case is the internet copyright law, which put in simple terms sounds like this, any image, text, video, music, ect ect submitted on the internet, no matter where is automatically a copyright of the author that created it and any unauthorized edits if the author is against it can be legally requested to be removed, any commercial reselling needs authors permission.

Its not quite the exact wording but what does it matter, fact is, im not entirely sure what spawned this huge discussion but seeing as minori is a game producing company i would safely assume its games. So lets brake it down now, the group was not seeking any commercial gain so last point which can be legally persecuted is automatically out. So that leaves us with the second, since the group did edit the game files they are technically liable to request removal of the files, BUT, they have to do it properly since there is no direct financial harm, they dont have the authority to just barge in and confiscate, in fact, them barging in and deleting chunks of wiki owned by someone is braking the owners of the websites copyright, because the author(s) created the site with the content and this owns the layout of the site.

So it all comes down to this, did they have the right to request removal, yes they did, the law is on their side, all is good.

Did they have the right to barge in and remove it, no they didn’t, just because their a big boo boo scary company going against simple people, they had to obey the copyright just the same.

And finally law suit in Canada? for what, as i said the company didnt suffer any financial damage, so what possibly could they be suing for, intellectual property damage or copyright violation, well frankly its the internet, they would need to prove that the owner of the wiki received their requests to remove it, that he/she refused to do so, ect ect. and since there is no commercial damage, the costs of the court would way surpass the worth of the case so it would most likely would be denied.

And also one more thing, if its subtitles withing the game, for example in xml files, then they have nothing at all, since the xml files have been written from scratch (cos they would need to change even the timings of the subtitle appearance)then they cant even request to remove that because it no longer belongs to them, while it might be a modification to their game, if it doesn’t in any way resemble the data in the actual game, they got nothing at all, just because the file names are the same, well a file name is quite frankly uncopyrightable.

So in the end it all comes down to them being stupid, sorry i ranted for so long.

Cheers everyone

It seems they wish to draw attention from foreign audiences to the fact that Japan’s government is seeking to do a sort of Tokugawa shogunat trick with eroge in Japan. The Japanese have a big issue with loss of face. Getting contacted from the Western world about something like Rapelay was probably not a good thing to their perceived status. The fact that it came from America, (Why does the World Hate America?) means that the imprimature of American prestige is behind it. It doesn’t matter if Americans wished it or not, that’s what it “looks” like internationally.

I can’t say whether Minori is racist or not. It doesn’t matter to me. I’m not bringing them harm to the family. I’m interested in their visual novel products. They could be Yakuza and had hit men contracts signed out and I wouldn’t care. Business is business.

If some American feminist group like Equality Now is going after the Japanese, it don’t matter what the Japanese feel or think about me or Americans. The problem originated in America, and only Americans can fix it. Cause obviously it is because of Americans who didn’t prevent Democrat Presidents from messing up Zimbabwe, Iran, and Afghanistan, is why the World Hates the US.

The Japanese have various laws they must follow. Copyright is only one of them. It doesn’t matter when copyright laws are still stuck in feudal times where property actually existed in reality. Now a days IP consists of information that can be multiplied, yet you still have that ‘property’. It’s a metaphysical paradox. How do you own something that can be multiplied and copied, yet the value of it wouldn’t decrease but rather increase given its exposure?

This is why Harvard Law school in the US turns out bad lawyers. They can’t deal with this so they go stupid.

Say Fuck to ACTA we need our rights and freedoms ACTA is a blatant invasion of privacy, and is a complete contradiction of Section Eight of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the The Fourth Amendment for the US.

Do you really want corporations like Minori to be able to force you off the internet with just an ACCUSASION of and no evidence what so ever?(this is beyond just a fight with minori btw) The Government seems to think that the only democratic right we have is the right to a vote! Let’s proof them wrong shall we!? I’m not asking you to vote for the pirate party.

I’m asking you to be aware of this issue and how it’s going to affect your daily life whether or not you file share or not, And to Stand up for your Rights and Freedoms. So we can download what we want, when we want and that includes patches to translate Visual Novels!

http://www.pirate-party.us for you in the USA
http://www.pirateparty.ca/ for those in Canada

Sorry people on the other nice big continent to our east I have nothing in my bag for you but I know you guys have your own pirate party, Google ;p

Sooo shameful.